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28 May 2004

You Can't Handle the Truth!

From The Edge of England's Sword, refreshing candor on the Abu Ghraib scandal:

"I have recently been thinking about the scene in A Few Good Men, where Tom Cruise says he wants the TRUTH and Jack Nicholson yells back "you can't handle the truth". I was hoping for a Nicholson style outbreak when Rumsfield et al were being questioned by the Senate. I want him to yell it at every pontificating journalist and opinionista. Hell, I want to yell it from the roof tops. The truth is war is a hard, messy, deadly affair. It is not a romantic game of bravery and daring. It is a hard slog, that is trying at the best of times and wrenching and torturous and terrifying most of the time."

There may be scandal in the photographs- there is certainly scandal in their publication. If taken for gratuitous personal use by our soldiers, there is no excusing the photographs. If taken for purposes of intimidation to gain cooperation and information from hardened Baathists, the strategy behind the photographs can be explained and excused. That the photographs circulated freely amongst the soldiers who took them points toward the former explanation. That Jeremy Spivits testified that freelance violence by soldiers guarding the prisoners was common in reinforces this explanation.

It would seem that Military Intelligence operated in Abu Ghraib with insufficient firewalls, and that soldiers guarding prisoners operated with insufficient guidance and supervision. In the combination of these oversights, abuse was almost predictable. The soldiers implicated must and no doubt will be punished. More importantly, the soldiers must not be sacrificed to save the careers of officers in the chain of command who are ultimately responsible for the scandal.

On the subject of torture, Mark Bowden wrote an excellent essay for The Atlantic Monthly examining the subject- its uses, its impact on torturer and torturee, and its effectiveness in gaining information. (I hasten to credit Gabrielle for suggesting that I read the article.) Bowden concluded that some level of torture can be a necessary evil to protect civilization, and he suggested a method (with which I disagree) for judicial regulation of mild torture under extreme circumstances.

Later in the article, Bowden described an interview with Alistair Hodgett and Alexandra Arriaga of Amnesty International, who oppose torture in any circumstances:

"I showed the two an article I had torn from that day's New York Times, which described the controversy over a tragic kidnapping case in Frankfurt, Germany. On September 27 of last year a Frankfurt law student kidnapped an eleven-year-old boy named Jakob von Metzler, whose smiling face appeared in a box alongside the story. The kidnapper had covered Jakob's mouth and nose with duct tape, wrapped the boy in plastic, and hidden him in a wooded area near a lake. The police captured the suspect when he tried to pick up ransom money, but the suspect wouldn't reveal where he had left the boy, who the police thought might still be alive. So the deputy police chief of Frankfurt, Wolfgang Daschner, told his subordinates to threaten the suspect with torture. According to the suspect, he was told that a "specialist" was being flown in who would "inflict pain on me of the sort I had never experienced." The suspect promptly told the police where he'd hidden Jakob, who, sadly, was found dead. The newspaper said that Daschner was under fire from Amnesty International, among other groups, for threatening torture."

""Under these circumstances," I asked, "do you honestly think it was wrong to even threaten torture?""

"Hodgett and Arriaga squirmed in their chairs. "We recognize that there are difficult situations," said Arriaga, who is the group's director of government relations. "But we are opposed to torture under any and all circumstances, and threatening torture is inflicting mental pain. So we would be against it.""

There you have it... by the standard of Amnesty International the life of every human being could be at stake, and the threat of torture would not be acceptable. It goes without saying that, in Amnesty International's opinion (an opinion shared by the Ted Kennedy wing of the Democrat party), saving the lives of a few good men serving America in Iraq would not be reason enough to man-handle Islamist thugs. Idealism is sometimes to be admired, but not when it is reduced to the level of silliness, and certainly not when the lives of decent people are at stake.

Posted by publius at May 28, 2004 11:46 PM
Comments

I was horified by the post on Ian Murray's blog and I find your viewpoint even more repellent. Essentially you agree with Saddam Hussein. 'Violence is the only way forward.' We stand for nothing real. All the ideas and beliefs of the 'West' are a sham.
Not for me. I will fight you and your like as hard as I fight terrorism. Get out of my way.

Posted by: ExpatEgghead at May 30, 2004 06:50 AM

Firstly, thank you for taking time to post your opinions. I appreciate your having read my blog, even if you disagree with me.

I do NOT believe that "violence is the only way forward." I do believe that violence is a necessary component in the war against terrorism. Intellectual warfare is another component- our ultimate victory will require the exegetical dismantling of Islamist theology as much as it will require military campaigns.

I do not celebrate torture. I referenced the Bowden article in The Atlantic Monthly because it provides a thoughtful analysis of the subject. I agree with Bowden's reluctant acceptance of mild torture as being necessary in certain cases. By mild torture I mean sleep deprivation, severe physical discomfort, isolation and mental games. I do not accept the use of heavy physical torture. We should have clear, albeit unpublished, rules governing the use of torture, we should limit the use of torture to trained interrogators, and we should work hard to ensure that torture is only used when necessary and appropriate.

In practical terms, this means that when we are certain that a detainee is linked with al Qaeda and might have information of importance, we should extract the information even if doing so causes discomfort or humiliation to the detainee. Importantly, while I think these procedures should be in place, I would prefer not to know about them. I can handle the truth, I just don't think every detail in the war against terrorism deserves publication.

The scandal in Abu Ghraib does not meet my standards as outlined above. I noted in my original post that the soldiers responsible for the abuse should be punished. I stressed that punishment should extend to the officers responsible for the prison. Having said as much, Congress is overreacting. The idea that we can fight a war against terrorists without getting our hands dirty is naive. I think it legitimate to question they can handle the truth. That is why I linked to the entry on Ian Murray's blog.

I would be interested to learn how you would respond to the hypothetical situation posed by Bowden to the Amnesty International representatives. Is the threat of torture acceptable to save innocent lives? Taking the next step, is mild torture, as I have defined it, acceptable to save innocent lives? If mild torture of one man would have prevented the 9-11 attack, would you argue that we should not have engaged in such behavior?

Posted by: Publius at May 31, 2004 12:37 AM

The Abu Ghraib guards are being prosecuted and punished by the US government. The arab murderers who provoked the injudicious behavior by the guards are being hailed as heroes by the corrupt death culture that created them.

Publius, you are taking a reasonable approach to this problem. The islamists mutilate and behead their captives. Expat pinhead probably wishes that fate on all US servicemen.

Posted by: Muphibious at May 31, 2004 11:46 AM

I listened to Christopher Hitchens on CSPAN Radio this morning. He made a reasoned case against using mild torture in the war against terrorism. His reasoning: the war is going to take a long time to win and we can afford to be patient. Hitchens did not argue that mild torture is never necessary and made reference to cases like that referenced in the Bowden article as an example of difficult circumstances demanding hard moral choices. I don't agree with Hitchen's conclusions vis a vis torture and the war against terrorism, but I do appreciate his reasoning.

Posted by: Publius at June 1, 2004 12:26 PM
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